Tuesday, February 09, 2010

More on the Fifth Avenue Couple

Pop News Daily: Rich Lady Wants You and Your Grubby Shoes to Know She Is Not a Bad Hostess

A celebrity gossip writer stands corrected. High society hostess, Suzanne Murphy made it clear on her invitation that she wanted shoes-off at her party. She and her husband, Robert Albertson, are big names in the finance industry.

27 comments:

Bob said...

Matthew, As I have related in previous posts, my wife has received invitations in the past with the no shoes please insert. In fact she went to a Superbowl party Sunday where the hostess notified guests that it would be a shoeless affair. The wifes got together while the husbands went to a pub to watch the game

richyrich said...

Matthew, some pro-shoes people (and snobbish ones too) try and make out that those who want shoes off in their homes can't afford to have their floors and carpets repalced. So it is encouraging to see rich people adopting the practice and give the lie to such beliefs.

Bob, do you know if the hostess of the party that your wife attended provided her guests with slippers?

Sandro said...

I hope the time will come when there is no need for such pre-notification

Celestial Fundy said...

Sandro, yes, it cuts across all section sof society.

Celestial Fundy said...

Bob, that is great.

Bob said...

richyrich,I do not know what the hostess did in that regard. I can tell you that my wife has a few pair of foldable ballerina flats in various colors with a soft soles that she puts in her purse to match her outfit. When she arrives she removes her street shoes and puts on the flats in her purse.

victoriap said...

I just thought i would post this here even it unrelated. The sky man came last Sunday to fit HD and he put on plastic booties over his shoes before he even came into the house.Well done sky. A few years ago we had a workman in to fit a gate on our stairs, when i asked him to remove his boots(off white carpets)he refused.I told him to leave, so he took them off.

Celestial Fundy said...

Thoughtful of him.

Very bold of you to refuse admittance. I wish more people had your pluck.

victoriap said...

Well I called the guys bluff. Its a very difficult situation, but I suspect that most of the workmen who do complain about having to take them off, would never get into their own homes wearing work boots.

Celestial Fundy said...

Maybe not.

Anonymous said...

Hi,

On a similr theme, I live in a flat and a letting agent vistited my neighbour yesterday.

The front door is directly opposite mine, and I noticed that she took off her knee-length boots and left them in the communal hallway before entering the flat.

richyrich said...

Anonymous,

Has your neighbour got a shoes off policy as far as you're aware?

Anonymous said...

Richy,

No I don't believe so.

In fact I overheard her tell the lady not to worry about her boots, buit she still took them off and left them outside the door.

Her boots looked clean so I guess she just always does it.

Sandro said...

Interesting:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article577887.ece

Sandro said...

I have been reading shoes-off/on discussions in Russian, German and English for 8 years, and can say there are offalists and tramplians everywhere, the latter ones fewer and fewer.
I think being pro-shoes-on indoors more and more becomes of a personal, rather than cultural, issue

Sandro said...

misterpoll.com provides a number of polls on shoes-off etiquette, and offalists normally dominate in answers

Celestial Fundy said...

Thanks for dropping in and sharing that, Anonymous.

Celestial Fundy said...

Sandro, that URL you pasted seems to be broken.

It must be hard being a tramplian in Russia where the streets are a lot dirtier than those in Hertfordshire.

The thing with Mister Poll is that it is only going to be answered by people interested in the question. I think offalists are more likely to answer those polls.

Sandro said...

pardon, I left a part of it out of copying

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article577887.ece

Celestial Fundy said...

Thanks. I posted about that before.

Sandro said...

regarding Mister Poll and other resources of sorts: tramplians are also interested in shoes on/off policies, yet from the opposite side; neutral people wouldn't mind remove their shoes if a situation has them think on the issue

richyrich said...

I agree that most people who have no particularly strong views one way or the other are just quite happy to "go with the flow" wherever they are and therefore have no major objection to removing their shoes of asked to do so when visiting someone else's home.

Sandro said...

removing shoes indoors is in most cases an obviously reasonable choice for the neutral

Sandro said...

In one of the earlier threads, I mentioned the Uriah Heep producer who enjoyed the practice when she was asked to remove her boots at a home party in Moscow, a typical example of a neutral person

Sandro said...

CF, I agree it is more difficult to be a tramplian in Moscow than in Stockholm, where streets are washed with shampoo, but while in Russian-written web discussions I see quite a few people who say they hate shoes-off though have to comply with it, I have never seen Swedes or Canadians saying that. About 10% of people in Georgia, Russia, Azerbaijan are potential or actual tramplians in spite of dirt in the streets. Some people consider it "European" not to remove their shoes and are shy to say they actually prefer shoes-off, and some people are ready to do whatever to avoid it.
It is also interesting to read posts of those who migrated west from ex-Soviet countries:most of them promote the shoes-off tradition and even have the natives adopt it, while some willingly quit the policy.

Celestial Fundy said...

Sandro, I have read comments from Canadians who say that they hate removing shoes or that shoes are not removed in their locality.

I have read some Swedes who think removing shoes is 'silly' and that upper-class Swedes keep their shoes on.

I posted before about the security guard who came to Britain from Communist Czechslovakia. He had slowly stopped removing his shoes. However, he arrived in Britain in the Seventies when people generally kept their shoes on most of the time.

Sandro said...

OK, I see ) Looks you are right.
Regarding upper classes in Sweden, I remember a Swedish girl from a university professor's family expressed her insult as a reply to a comment about only low classes removing shoes in Sweden. She said she didn't consider herself a representative of a lower class. I also remember a Swedish comment saying that the Royals also practice shoes of in informal situations which seems verisimilar provided Swedish top classes are quite democratic.