Thursday, April 08, 2010


I went to a get-together at an home yesterday. They don't seem to enforce a shoes-off policy, but most of us who visit them remove their shoes.

A young couple came. The guy reminded his girlfriend to take off her shoes.

It does seem removing shoes is standard etiquette for people under the age of 30.


Sandro said...

Since people become less and less formal, and the world gets more and more globalised, there is actually nothing to feel surprise that an obviously reasonable idea, the shoes-off policy, becomes more and more common.
Anyway thanks for a nice piece of news, Mat.

Celestial Fundy said...

Sandro, I am wondering about the Google translator.

Does it translate into Georgian? If so, could you check the accuracy of this blog when translated?

Perhaps you could look at the Russian translation as well?

Sandro said...

no, it doesn't translate into Georgian, and the Russian translation is very funny ) in terms of grammar though clear about the content

Celestial Fundy said...

Thanks for having a look.

I saw a bizarre translation of a blog from Portugese into English.

richyrich said...

Interesting what you said about people under 30 taking their shoes off automatically. Another reason for that may be the fact that many of them as children were made to take off their shoes at home by their parents (even though the parents often didn't do that themselves nor ask it of adults)and that now they just do it naturally. Of course as they get older and the next generation also practices shoe removal (and older "shoes on" generations gradually die out) that will probably eventually become the "norm". At least that what we must hope!

Sandro said...

you are welcome, Mat
interesting comment, Richyrich - today's young people's parents' generation must have represented a transition period!

Celestial Fundy said...

Yes, I think so, Rich.

Moderate Mouse said...

I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but I wonder if one of the reasons for guests keeping shoes on in the US, UK, etc., has anything to do with the fact that the people living in the home have shoes on which could (I don't know if it ever does) make a guest who wants to take their shoes off feel self-conscious about doing so. (I was going to post an example here, but I feared it would make the commentary too long.)

When/if I get out on my own, I may never instigate a shoes off policy for any guests that I have (unless I marry an offalist), but I'll probably require myself to avoid wearing "real" shoes at home unless there's a pressing need but rather stick to slippers as much as possible when at home, and I may possibly have the shoes I use the most lined up at the door. I'm hoping the combination of my "shoelessness" and the shoes lined up at the door will help any guest who wishes to take their shoes off for whatever reason (comfort, personal conviction, or otherwise)feel more okay about doing so.

Celestial Fundy said...

"I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but I wonder if one of the reasons for guests keeping shoes on in the US, UK, etc., has anything to do with the fact that the people living in the home have shoes on which could (I don't know if it ever does) make a guest who wants to take their shoes off feel self-conscious about doing so."

I expect so.

Celestial Fundy said...

MM, I do value your comments.

I do find it interesting that you follow this blog so closely, even though you don't quite agree with the central premise.

What makes you such an avid follower of this blog?

Moderate Mouse said...

"What makes you such an avid follower of this blog?"

You know, that's an interesting question. I think it all started when I overheard my mom saying that she was considering possibly instigating a "shoes-off" policy. (She and my Canadian stepdad had been doing some renovation work, including floors, in the place that they've had for 4 1/2 years so far and are in the process of trying to sell it. Stepdad's "to-do" list for either tomorrow--which happens to be my 25th birthday--or next Saturday includes cleaning up the entryway, which was what supposedly needed to happen before the shoes-off policy could be feasible. Whether or not said policy will in fact happen remains to be seen.) So from there, I started looking up stuff online regarding how other people handled such a concept. What I didn't count on was finding a blog that was devoted solely to that. (As far as I know, nobody else in my family knows about you or your blog.)

I will say this though:

1. In a perfect world, there'd be no need for "real" shoes in the home. However, there are people, including myself, with an upbringing or something else that suggests otherwise.

2. Even though I don't fully agree with you at this point, at least you present your position and handle objections with more class than other people I've heard of. There's a church that's not in my hometown but in my home state--Kansas--that says/does things you don't want to know about. If I was so turned off by the tone presented here and/or thought there'd be some crude language, name-calling, etc. involved (which the aforementioned church has a history of doing), you wouldn't have heard a word out of me.

I hope that answers your question. (I could only put so much here.)

Celestial Fundy said...

Thanks, MM.

Moderate Mouse said...

You're welcome, CF, and if anything, "I" should probably thank YOU.

When I first started coming here, I had a lot of reservations regarding the concept of leaving shoes at the door. Regarding the nature of some of my previous comments, more specifically ones about objections I've had to the idea of a shoes-off policy I think it was just a matter of my needing some tough love especially when someone in my own family was considering instigating such a policy.

I think that's why I've constantly been coming here and commenting. I needed some help working through my reservations about a shoes-off policy. (It was never my intention to just come and cause trouble.) While I don't consider myself an official offalist, I've at least come to terms with that school of thought.

Sheila said...

I am seventeen years old and I am responsible for keeping the house clean. However, both of my parents insist on wearing their shoes. Sometimes it is so bad I have to follow them around on my hands and knees scrubbing the dog poop, dirt, etc. from off the floor. It is so disgusting. I have given up on trying to make them take off their shoes because they just get so angry at me as if I am asking them to cure cancer. My father also smokes excessively all the time, when one is finished he lights another one before the minute hand has time to get all the way around the clock. I spend most of my time avoiding the smell because I get migranes every single time I smell it. I have to take pills and go to the doctor for it and everything but my father still wont stop smoking in the house which is what causes them in the first place. My life is seriously affected by these kind of things especially the smoke because 98% of the time I am in excruciating pain. I don't know what to do anymore.

Celestial Fundy said...

Sheila, thanks for visiting. It is nice to hear from somebody under 18.

I don't know what to say about your health situation or your strained relationship with your parents.

Perhaps taking some time away from home, perhaps staying with a relative, might give you a break from the effects of the smoking.

You have my prayers.