Saturday, October 15, 2011

Pickahling: Wipe Down Wednesday – your shoes, that is.

Pickahling: Wipe Down Wednesday – your shoes, that is.

'Take a moment and think about all the places you’ve walked today. I went to the pet store (needed a new litter scoop), the grocery store (needed more produce to make our super smoothies), storytime at the local library, then a playdate where we walked about a two miles on residential streets and dirt trail. Oh, and then I went jogging at the track at our neighborhood junior high. All in all, an average day. Just off the top of my head I can think that my shoes were exposed to a variety of different animal poop, all sorts of different little bugs that I unknowingly squashed, LOTS and LOTS of chemicals from leaky cars on the residential roads and parking lots, chemicals used to clean the library carpets, pet and grocery store floors.'

17 comments:

Emma said...

Hi Richy,

Thanks for your kind remarks - I hope you had a good week and are having a good weekend?

Yes I am babysitting again this evening - hope it goes OK.

It's interseting what you say about the cellar - we have one as well and use it for document archives.
It as a hard floor so i keep some sheets of cardboard to stand on when i am down there so my feet don't get dirty or cold - sounds girlie i know!!

I think I may have mentioned I often have pedicures as wellso my feet look nice as i prefer being in my stockinged feet so much.

I also agree with you about slippers, they need to be descreet, but at least they are softer and more comfy than shoes.

richyrich said...

Hi Emma,
I had quite a good week thanks and weekend is also OK so far, weather's really nice for this time of year. Is the family you're baby sitting for this evening the same one as you did the other night or a different one? And if it is a different family, it'll be interesting to see if they'll be wearing their shoes at home.
I did go down to ther cellar with my former colleague a few times but I never noticed her covering the floor with anything whilst she was down there. Still it's a nice idea though. Do you work without shoes all winter too and do your feet ever get cold being in your stockinged feet then? And if you do and wear boots as you said you sometimes do, isn't it a lot of hassle to put them back on and then off again when you go to the loo? And can I ask why do you put your shoes back on to go to the loo? Sorry if I seem to have asked you a lot of questions (again if you want to answer them you can do it either on here or by e-mail to me)but I was just wondering. If you have any more questions for me, feel free to ask.
Thanks and hope you have a nice weekend too and good luck with this evening's appointment,

Richy

Ian said...

^lol Taking shoes off at work is weird and freakish.^


Back on topic.

I haven't really given much thought about the invisible materials that you may tread on outside. I do look for the obvious signs like dog dirt, dark and damp looking patches, mud and I am even anal enough to actively avoiding cigarette butts.

I have never on the otherhand ever given a thought about chemical residue and as a car enthusiast I deal with a lot of poisonous liquids like anti freeze and of course petrol.

This item makes me think, I should make more of an effort to at least change out of my outdoor trainers when coming inside. I even bought a shoe rack to help. :)

Sandro said...

Good to start, Ian)

Matthew Celestis said...

It's good to be challenged, Ian. Well done for thinking these things through.

Emma said...

Hi Richy,

It was a different family, and they were wearing shoes in their home.Why don't more people have shoes off rules at home? I was in casual clothes, but left my ankle boots at the door and went in my socks.

Yes you're right in the winter it can get chilly going shoeless - I tend to wear opaque tights to help a little.

To be honest a bigger problem is when it is wet. I think I mentioned that I work for a lettings agency and clients come in and leave the floor wet.

I think this winter I might wear slippers - what do you think. Discreet one of course.

I know what you mean about the loo thing and as I am usually the only one in the office it would probably be OK to go sholess, but I put my shoes or boots back on.

How big was the office you worked in with the lady you mentioned?Maybe it's me and I don't mean to critise, but it just seems a bit "gross" walking around in a loo in her stockinged feet!!

Ian - sorry just have to disagree with you.

Sandro said...

Emma, I hope you will gradually teach all clients the sensibility of leaving one's shoes at the door. I think winter weather will give them more hint )

richyrich said...

Hi Emma,
I hope you're OK and that you have a good week. Did the family you were babysitting for on Saturday say anything when you took off your boots by their door? Shoes off homes are still a minority in the UK but a steadily growing minority I think, and will eventually be a majority in my view. It's the aim of this blog to try and change things be be that way. Have you always lived in a shoes off home? And are other members of your family shoes off people?

I think you should wear slippers at work in the winter, some pairs won't look much different to some kinds of shoes to a casual visitor.

My former colleague would sometimes wear opaque tights in winter too. The office we worked in was a former house that had been converted. It was a fairly small company with about 12 people working in the office whilst I was there. On the ground floor there was a reception area and behind that an office where 2 or 3 secretaries (the numbers varied a little whilst I was there) including the shoeless colleague worked. Then also on the ground floor there was another office which the chief boss' wife (who was the main company secretary) had to herself and the office kitchen was in the back. I've already mentioned the cellar. Upstairs were the bosses, together with their PA as well as myself and a handful of others. There was also a loo upstairs (as well as downstairs) As I've said I sometimes needed to go downstairs and deal with the secretaries (including the shoeless one) and she would also sometimes come up to us with stuff (in her stockinged feet of course!) As I've said some of the other staff, especially the other secretaries would also sometimes remove their shoes at work (especially when it was hot in summer but not as regularly as the lady in question)The only time I ever took off my shoes whilst I was there was when there was a lot of snow outside and my shoes were wet and I didn't want to leave marks on the office carpet and one woman who worked with me in that office said that she liked my socks! I also heard that colleague remark that the bosses' PA had a shoes off policy at her home (although I never heard her mention it herself)but I never saw her shoeless in the office either. My colleague thought that was a bit strange and I hadn't been converted to the shoes off cause then either.
Take care,

Richy

Ian said...

I'm not in disagreement, i'd simply report a collegue for doing so. Last thing I want to smell is someone elses stinking feet and the sight of brown socks complete with bunions is almost vomit inducing. Sorry but feet are disgusting and not what i'd expect to see at work unless I worked in the fitness industry.

richyrich said...

Ian,

I agree that feet that aren't well looked after can be an unpleasant sight to some people. That's why I think it's important for them to be well pedicured if people are to show them in work or elsewhere. Also to stay on the safe side, if people are to go shoeless in work or anywhere else where others will see them, it's best for them to wear socks or tights (if they're not in slippers).

What you've said about smell makes an interesting point and is an issue that has been discussed on this blog in the past. I also agree that there's a responsibility on people who want to go without shoes in the company of other people to make sure their feet are clean. However I think that the majority of people in this country do have reasonably high standards of hygiene and would make sure their feet didn't stink if they were to go shoeless in front of others. To go back to my former collesgue whom I've been discussing with Emma, she was a very presentable lady who took great care of herself and not once did I notice any whiff of bad smell coming from the direction of her feet whilst she was shoeless. That is also the case with all other people I've come across shoeless at work over the years and I'm sure that it's also true of Emma.
Indeed (as has also been argued here before)allowing one's feet to breathe outside one's shoes for a great part of the day will normally make them stink less, not more.

richyrich said...

Ian,

I agree that feet that aren't well looked after can be an unpleasant sight to some people. That's why I think it's important for them to be well pedicured if people are to show them in work or elsewhere. Also to stay on the safe side, if people are to go shoeless in work or anywhere else where others will see them, it's best for them to wear socks or tights (if they're not in slippers).

What you've said about smell makes an interesting point and is an issue that has been discussed on this blog in the past. I also agree that there's a responsibility on people who want to go without shoes in the company of other people to make sure their feet are clean. However I think that the majority of people in this country do have reasonably high standards of hygiene and would make sure their feet didn't stink if they were to go shoeless in front of others. To go back to my former collesgue whom I've been discussing with Emma, she was a very presentable lady who took great care of herself and not once did I notice any whiff of bad smell coming from the direction of her feet whilst she was shoeless. That is also the case with all other people I've come across shoeless at work over the years and I'm sure that it's also true of Emma.
Indeed (as has also been argued here before)allowing one's feet to breathe outside one's shoes for a great part of the day will normally make them stink less, not more.

richyricha said...

Sorry that my last posting has appeared twice, my PC froze and I pressed the mouse twice when posting it?

Emma said...

Hi Rchy,

Sorry about the delay in replying.

Thanks for explaing so much about your former colleague. I hope you don't mind me asking all these questions - it's just that her attitude seems just like mine.

I do take a lot of care of my feet , have regular pedicures and I am certain they don't smell!!

Did you have clients or customers calling into the office, and did she ever get "caught out" in her stockinged feet when she should have wbeen wearing her shoes?

Still seems a bit odd going in the loo used by 11 or twelve others shoeless!!

BTW what is your attitude to shoes off. Do you remove yours at home? You said you did it once in the office - have you considered doing it again?

The family I was babysitting for told me there was no need to take my boots off. However, as I mentioned before it is the agencies policy and of course I prefer being in socks anyway.

I think what you say about slippers is a great idea - will have to find some smart / discreet ones to wear in the office.

richyrich said...

Hi Emma,
Thanks for getting back to me again. I am certainly more than happy to answer questions about my former colleague and about other things. I hope you don't mind me asking you questions either.

The company I used to work for with the lady in question were surveyors and property consultants and we did work for business clients. It was very rare for clients to visit the office and people from the company would go out and visit the clients at their premises, so the question of my colleague being seen shoeless by clients or members of the public didn't arise. As I think I said before, all of us at the office had no problem with her being shoeless, even the bosses were totally relaxed about it. Whenever anyone would ask her about it (and they stopped after a while)she would simply say that she didn't like wearing shoes. She seemed to take the attitude that as long it didn't affect her work and didn't harm anyone, it didn't matter what she had or didn't have on her feet. I agree with that and if being shoeless makes an employee more relaxed and less stressed it may make them work better in my view. Have you ever had visitors to your company make any comment about you being shoeless?
As I said I did take off my shoes once when I was with the company in question when the snow was very bad. Since then (in other jobs that I've had) I have occasionally removed my shoes when I've been alone in the office but never when I've been with others either. But you never know, I may one day. Just as a matter of interest, do you think that people are more tolerant of women taking their shoes off in work than they would be of men, it's just that women seem to do it more often, that's all.
As far as shoe removal in general (especially at home) is concerned I have come to believe in it in recent years. I've always preferred to be in my stockinged feet and have tended to do that at home because it's more relaxing. However gradually (some time after I'd left the company with the colleague) I've also come to see its value in terms of keeping the house clean. Some 5 years ago I bought my current house and it had cream coloured carpets when I bought it (and still has and they are as clean then as they were when I moved in)and I liked that and decided from the beginning that it was going to be a shoe free zone. Since then I always take off my shoes as soon as I come in through the door and normally pad around the place in my stockinged feet. When people visit me I also prefer them to take theirs off and to be fair many take the hint when they see my shoes left by the door and me in my stockinged feet and the spotless cream carpets around. Do visitors to your home take off their shoes and do you ask them to do that? Also have you always taken your shoes off at home and do other members of your family do it?
When I visit other people I normally just look to see whether or not they're wearing shoes and if they're not I will offer to take mine off, although a couple of years ago I did visit one friend who was shoeless and who had cream carpets and when I offered to take off my shoes she just told me not to be silly and that there was no need for me to do that. If I was in that situation now though, I would probably just start taking them off anyway and see if the other person said anything.
Anyway I'm sorry that my postings are a bit long winded but I just try and answer your questions as fully as I can (again we could do it by e-mail if you want). I hope you manage to find suitable slippers to wear in the office. I would suggest that you explain to them in the shop that you want some that are discreet and that you could wear at work. I'm sure they'd understand and willing to help you. Have you got any more baby sitting appointments lined up this week?
Take care and hope to hear from you again soon,
Richy

Emma said...

Hi Richy,

Thanks for your meassage.

Next basbysitting is tomorrw (actually an early evening appt).

I am single and live on my own. I try to encourage people to remove their shoes, but most people know I prefer it and do it anyway.

You asked about family. I am an only child and my dad passed away about 18 mths ago but my Mum always goes stockinged footed. She still works (I am onmly 23) and does it there as well - maybe that's where i got the habit from!!

richyrich said...

Hi Emma,

First of all may I just say that I'm really sorry to hear about your dad. I hope that you and your mum are coping as well as can be expected with your terrible loss. Do you live near your mum?

I hope that you appointment tomorrow night goes well. Is it with a different family to the ones you've just had. I hope it won't be too long before you visit a shoes off home!

In your earlier posting you seemed to be interested in what reactions my former colleague was having from some of the firm's clients and visitors and I said that we didn't get many visitors. BTW, have any of your form's visiting clients ever made any comments about you being shoeless? I just thought you might be interested in another experience of mine shortly after I left the company in question. When I left them I decided that it was time for a change of career and I went back to college to gain a new qualification and went away and lived in a hostel there. Each week we had to go to the hostel's office to collect clean bed linen that had been brought up from the laundry. The office manager there was a woman I'd say was in her mid to late 50's at the time, a few times I saw her in her stockinged feet (though not every time)with her shoes left just by her desk, she sometimes got up on her feet to fetch things and walk about and she stayed shoeless even though there were students around. I didn't find anything odd about that and I never heard any other students making any comments about it either. I just felt (my recent experience of my colleague may have influenced me in that respect)that if this lady felt more comfortable in her stockinged feet, let her be. I'm sure that the majority of people who visit workplaces and see staff without their shoes on feel similarly tolerant too.
Do you mind me asking what your mum does for work? Does she also work in an office? It's just that it's obviously easier to go shoeless in some jobs than it is in others. Also has your mum always been stocking footed at home and were you brought up to think that removing shoes at home was the correct thing to do?

Sorry if you think I've asked too many questions and again feel free to ask me any more that you want.
Thanks,

Richy

Emma said...

Hi Richy,

Thanks for your lovely comments - much appreciateted.

Have to be brief as I am "sitting" shorlty but will post more latter if I can or early tomoroow AM. Sorry.

I live about 10 minutes walk from my Mum.

She works in a local chandlery at the marina. She always dresses smartly, but never wear shoes.

She has been there about 4 years ans before that worked in a ladies clothes shop.

She says she just prefers not wearing them - maybre it genetic!!