Saturday, March 19, 2016

Business Insider: The CEO of a $1 billion company explains why he makes everyone who walks into the office take their shoes off

Business Insider: The CEO of a $1 billion company explains why he makes everyone who walks into the office take their shoes off

If you land a job at Gusto, a $1 billion company that provides payroll, benefits, and workers' comp insurance to small businesses in the US, you may want to get a pedicure before your first day - or at least invest in a few new pairs of nice socks.

Joshua Reeves, the cofounder and CEO of Gusto, recently told Adam Bryant of The New York Times that he's implemented a no-shoe policy at work.

"We started the company in a house in Palo Alto, and because I was raised with shoes off in the home, that house was a shoes-off home, too," Reeves explained. "When we moved to a proper office in San Francisco, people said, 'Let's keep this.'"

29 comments:

Paul said...

This is satire, isn't it?

Elain Smith said...

Great idea.......I love to see the ladies remove their shoes in public places it makes them more feminine I always remove mine when I can.....

Anonymous said...

Elain - I completely agree with you.

I work in a bank in the UK and always work shoeless. I just feel more feminine in stocking feet or socks .

Paul said...

Anonymous - is it really allowed to work shoeless at your bank? Do your customers and colleagues see that you are not wearing shoes, or do you only keep your shoes off when seated at your desk?

Neil said...

Elain - I agree with you about ladies going in stocking feet in public places. But a man without his shoes in public somehow doesn't seem appropriate. When you remove shoes in places do you usually prefer your male counterparts also to remove their shoes.

Elain Smith said...

Neil no I have no problem with the men wearing shoes.....when I was a young girl in church the women and girls were not permitted to wear any shoes in the chapel the men were excluded from this rule which we never thought about sp growing up but I do find it suitable for women to be in stockinged feet in public I have no problem with it at all.....

Neil said...

Elain - was it because of the heels that only women had to remove shoes? ... Were the women and men in separate areas of the chapel? If they were in the same area, hope the men took extra care to wipe their shoes properly upon entering. What was the situation during weddings or choir. Did the bride and the bridesmaids also went in stockinged feet while the men were wearing shoes.

Elain Smith said...

Neil no it was in place to teach humility as heels were seen as a status symbol and the minister and his wife decided it would put them all on equal ground it kept us grounded you could wear a $200.00 dress or a $20.00 dress but when we were all in stockinged feet we seemed to be more equal as our status symbol was gone no one was any better than anyone else as some of the rich ladies seemed to look down on wives whos husbands didnt make as much money if that makes any sense, and yes it applied to all females before they entered the chapel,the organist found it easier to play in stocking feet, I suppose she could feel the pedals better and yes weddings the bridal party also had to remove their shoes during the service they could wear them in the other areas of the church building just not in the chapel.. and the men were allowed to wear shoes. it was just something you did and no one seemed to mind, and I must say it was much more comfortable and I think a lot of the ladies actually preferred it I know I didnt mind it.

Neil said...

Elain – You are right, it seems ladies don’t mind being in their stockinged feet. My fiancée while growing up they used to remove shoes indoors, so even now she takes her shoes off when entering someone’s house. However, I am not used to it and only do so if asked by the host. When I showed this to her, she said she actually would like the idea of walking down the aisle in her stockinged feet and perform the ceremony without her shoes. She thinks it is more relaxed. Do you have this practice even now in your area? Or was it when you were growing up?

Paul said...

I learned more of this CEO. He seems like a weird man. I wonder what happens if you keep your shoes on at his company office? Will you get fired?

Seriously, I think people at work are expected to keep their shoes on, this applies to both makes and females. My company actually prohibits certain kinds of shoes - slippers, flip-flops, sneakers and anything else that looks unprofessional. I, however, have occasionally seen some women walk to the printer in their stockinged feet - but they did so discreetly when it was quiet at the office. Also a friend of mine at work once came to the office in her tall boots and found them uncomfortable and took them off but her feet were under her desk so no one really saw her shoeless. When she needed to get up and go to a meeting or to the printer she put her boots back on every time.

Elain Smith said...

Well Im in Canada and we all seem to perhaps have shoes off gene lol (yes men as well) I no longer go to church......but I know at dentists offices and doctors offices they usally have signs requiring shoes to be removed. when my daughter was married she did so in her stockinged feet and the groom did wear shoes. and yes we still remove our shoes and go in stockinged feet to this day.....

Paul said...

Elain - why was your daughter in her stockinged feet when she was getting married? Was it the church policy?

Elain Smith said...

We as a family had moved back to the city where I was raised and she was very close to her grandmother (my mother) and decided she would like to be wed in grandmas church,now she was aware of the first ministers requirements as the two of them talked about everything...(he had long since retired) but she liked the idea (although it was not a requirement with the new minister my mother still opted to remove her shoes as did many of the ladies who remembered that they had to be in stockinged feet,my daughter asked her bridal party and me if we would mind going in stockinged feet for her wedding we of course said we would have no problem with it and on the day of the ceremony all the ladies removed their shoes in the narthex(front hall) and proceeded into the chaple as me and my mother had done so many years before it was a beautiful service and both her and I felt a lot closer to grandma who passed suddenly a few months after the wedding when we speak of her it is the one thing that still brings us closer and we do of course miss mom a lot...

Neil said...

Elain - Good to hear about your daughter’s beautiful weeding ceremony. Have seen beach weddings where the bride goes without shoes but haven’t seen a church ceremony where the bride and her maids go in stockinged feet while the groom and the groomsmen wear shoes. However, I am sure it was nothing new to you. May have seen many such events growing up there.

Elain Smith said...

Yes I must say I have seen my fair share of them lol

Neil said...

Elain - Something I experienced was, men tend to take extra care to wipe their shoes properly when the ladies are in stockinged feet. When we visit friends for informal dinners or casual gatherings, my fiancée removes her shoes even without being asked and so does some of her friends. I usually don’t remove mine unless asked by the host, but I take extra effort to wipe my shoes properly. Also, I have noticed men take extra effort to behave themselves so that we don’t step on someone’s toes, especially if we do dance and some of ladies are in stockinged feet.
Was it similar at your church? Do men wipe their shoes properly as they are with their shoes on while the ladies next to them are in stockinged feet and were the men/boys in the choir were careful not to step on someone’s toes.

Elain Smith said...

not that I noticed unless the weather was bad.

Paul said...

Elain, thank you for the beautiful story. I don't think I have ever heard about women doing a wedding ceremony in their stockinged feet - I assume your feet (and your daughter's and the bridesmaids') were hidden by long dresses, right? I am kind of used to the rule where indoor social events call for having shoes on, at all times, by both men and women.

Neil - I agree with you, during the reception when a lot of women dance in their stockinged feet, I take great care not to step on their toes. I don't take precautions to wipe my feet though. The assumption is that the dance floor is not spiffy clean anyways.

Elain Smith said...

Your welcome Paul well as mother of the bride I was in a knee length dress as were the brides maids my daughter wore a long gown and decided not make her brides maids wear long gowns it was a fall wedding so entire bridal party did wear pantyhose so yes people did see our stockinged feet and because they knew ahead of time they would have to remove their shoes my daugher (at my suggestion) did not mind that they should wear pantyhose with reinforced toes (just in case your wondering giggle) as they would be a bit more durable when spending time time in stockinged feet. and when I used to go to that church sheer toe hose had not been invented yet lol.... and the men were carful when we danced at the reception.......all the ladies seemed to like the idea and no one complained sadly my daughter is divorced but we do joke about about being married bare foot and pregnant lol............

Paul said...

Elain - sad that your daughter got divorced, but her wedding story sounds sweet. I take it your daughter was fairly young and so were the bridal party, right? Did you all wear white pantyhose, to match the bride's dress? Wasn't it cold to stand on the church floor with no shoes on? Were female guests who were not bridesmaids asked to take their shoes off too?

Neil said...

Paul – I think the unique thing about the church where Elain used to go (or may be even other churches in that part of Canada) seems to be the rule where only ladies have to remove their shoes while men kept theirs on. And also where the bride goes down aisle and attend the wedding ceremony in stockinged feet while the groom has his shoes on.
The thing that I mentioned about wiping my feet comes when we visit friends at their homes for casual gatherings or informal dinners and when my fiancée almost always removes her shoes at the door. She is in her mid 20s and I am in my early 30s. We met about 2 years back. Have to admit it was somewhat awkward at the beginning when we visited some of her friends as I wasn’t sure whether or not to remove my shoes at the door, because my fiancée used to go in her stockinged feet. As you may have already gathered that I am not a fan of removing shoes at other people’s places, fortunately for me, they always mentioned not to worry about my shoes. But I always made sure to wipe them properly, as I was somewhat embarrassed about not removing mine when my fiancée removed hers. Over time I guess things got kind of settled as other men also kept their shoes on and it became a ladies thing to remove shoes among our circle of friends. Some ladies removed at the door and the rest came in with their heels on and took them off at different times, usually when they gather around the kitchen. None of these were formal events.

Paul said...

Neil - I am a lot like you (except a little older than you), I do not remove my shoes at people's houses unless explicitly asked to (and even then I usually try to negotiate.) And, like you, I noticed that women tend to voluntarily remove their shoes at their friends' houses - perhaps because they are likely to wear heels and other uncomfortable shoes, or perhaps because they are neater. At my house men always keep their shoes on, whereas women who are our friends tend to remove their shoes.

Elain Smith said...

No Paul we did not wear white pantyhose as that would have been in bad taste as Im sure you know,cant compete with the bride on her day we were wearing beige or spice colored pantyhose and no the floors were not cold as they were carpeted so it was comfortable.and you are right I understand you not wanting to remove your shoes but for us ladies we dont mind going in our stocking feet as has been previously pointed out. Like I have said before I myself feel more feminine in stockinged feet when ever I am required to be so,and growing up that way of course probably helped lol

Matthew Celestine said...

OK, people. I think we can bring this conversation to a close now. If you want to carry on, please share your emails.

Thanks.

Neil said...

Why not. As much as I respect the wishes of Matthew in keeping the agenda of the blog being disturbed by us "shoes on" guys, I am more than willing to have our conversation. Paul, Elain, any idea how I should send my email to you? Or should I just type it in here?

Elain Smith said...

I can be wrote at elainsmith5@gmail.com thank you.

Neil said...

Thanks Elain.
Paul, in case you want to join a three way conversation, mine is
sjsunevm@gmail.com

Paul said...

I sent both of you an email.

Mark said...

When I worked in local government I always took my shoes off in my office. I have never liked wearing shoes so it was natural to take them off. When people came into my office I would get a few looks but as I was the boss nothing was said.